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2024-12-07 03:14 pm
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Dongren poll - ruminations

 

There are polls going around for ships on twt. I’m on vacay so here are my thoughts about each question/prompt for the dongren poll. This is just me rambling about my headcanons for dongren and offering scenarios for each possibility. It’s my interpretation of the text. (The text being all the footage and info we have about renjun and haechan thus far.). So if you disagree that’s normal and okay bc this is all subjective lmao.


Here we go!


Who fell in love first


Renjun. I kind of see renjun as a thrill-seeker. Especially younger renjun. And i think haechan offered that sorta unpredictable, high-energy companionship that made him all smitten early on. I think haechan at that point was too distracted to notice that he reciprocated feelings. Or maybe he wasn't distracted, and he knew he felt something, but he didn't know how to categorize it. I'm not sure.... So yeah, Renjun! 


Who fell harder


I don’t like this question. I feel bad bc it’s kind of like saying “who loves more” and I don’t like thinking of a relationship as unbalanced in that way. Lol. it makes me sad. Pass!


Who gave the first kiss


It could go either way. I don’t see either of them as inherently impulsive people. But I can see how - in each other’s company - they could each get swept up in the tempo of things. Honestly, i’d say renjun. Just because i do see him as someone who is comfortable with risk especially regarding his ego. I see renjun handling rejection better than haechan. 


On the other hand, if there’s a situation where haechan is confident about renjun reciprocating his feelings, and if the moment comes and haechan feels really safe and good about himself, he totally would jump.


Most likely to cry during/after a fight


I actually don’t see either of them as criers. They’d both be good at holding it in during a fight. I think that sort of self-possession is a muscle they both have had to work on as idols. But… after a fight hm.. Honestly it can go either way. I think if renjun cries it’s out of anger and not necessarily out of self-pity or an inability to cope with pain. And if haechan cries it’d be tears of annoyance/confusion.


Most likely to reach out first after a fight


This is such an interesting thing to consider omg it’s funny. I see haechan as someone who over time, has learned how to manage and cope with his emotions on his own. He’d be the type to try regulating his emotions after a fight by avoiding his partner completely. On the one hand to spare renjun from seeing him be all angry and volatile, but on the other hand because he might not want to show that side of himself to other people, bc he might not see it as good/attractive/virtuous. So i don’t think he’d reach out. He’d just like, give it a few days and then pretend it didn’t happen. OR refer to the fight in a clinical, detached way.


I totally think renjun would reach out, like immediately. In fact, he would say all the shit he needs to say during the fight and he’d leave the fight feeling like he did all he could. (he reminds me of my sister lol). Renjun to me is someone who is a very good verbal communicator and he completely understands the fruits of communication. So he’d go all in.


Who gets jealous more easily


Another question that can go both ways. If renjun were to get jealous it’s not so much from a place of insecurity or from feeling ownership over haechan but more of like… feeling protective. I think renjun recognizes that haechan is misunderstood/multifaceted and he’d probably be very sensitive to how other people behave around him. So it might LOOK like jealousy, but it’s actually protectiveness. I do think renjun would get jealous of haechan’s time, though.


I don’t think haechan would get jealous easily….or like, he’d feel it but it’d be very fleeting, because he wouldn’t really act on it. I also like imagining that if and when haechan feels jealousy, he wouldn’t fully recognize it as jealousy at first, and it’d throw him off big time. It’s just funny bc he’s been so into talking about himself as this rational thinker typa guy, and i totally believe him, but it’s super cute imagining him dealing with these mushy and dark feelings over someone he loves romantically, and then not knowing how to classify them. Nor how to handle them. Heh… good fic ideas….



Who’s the clingiest


Both are clingy!


Who enjoys quality time the most


A rare instance where the answer isn’t “it can go either way.” we have seen various examples of renjun enjoying quality time, and various examples of haechan saying he likes his solo time. Me personally, i love both. I love doing shit with my loved ones. But i do tend to lean towards needing my solo time. And i think a way for haechan to accommodate renjun’s desire for socializing would be to come to see time with renjun as not-social. And just - natural. Like, natural in the sense of not needing to do any type of emotional/intellectual labor around him and just kind of seeing renjun almost as an extension of himself. In that case, being around him would be like being alone! Idk if that makes sense. That’s how i feel about being with my sister lmao it’s just easy. I’m sensitive to other people’s emotions and energy and, for better or for worse, when I'm in a social setting i do like to do the work of moodmaking and all that. Which is why being alone is essential for recharging my battery, bc its when I can take the jester mask off T_T which is how i see haechan enjoying his solo time. He recently said he likes to be with renjun “when he’s tired.” which to me reads as, “I like to be with renjun when i’m.. DONGHYUCK” no mask, no autotuning to other people’s needs. no mediating, no performance. Nothing. Just existing. freedom…


Who enjoys deep conversation more


They both do! But in different ways. I know haechan has come out saying he doesn’t like lofty/philosophical convos. And girl, neither do I. but i think, if he’s with the right person and the mood is authentic and raw, he could totally go there. I think he’s just the type that needs to respect and trust his conversation partner enough to like… mentally relax. He did that interview recently where he said that he doesn’t like when someone tries pacifying/validating him when he’s seeking advice, he just wants to be given solutions. Which is HILARIOUS to me, because i’m the opposite (sometimes). But funnily enough, i think haechan is the type to want to be pushed/contradicted/challenged. Because it’s like,,, for him to get to a point where he’s seeking outside help, that means that he’s already worked through it alone and still needs guidance.. And that level of rigor and, like, deep and serious thinking is something renjun could definitely offer.


Renjun is funny because we’ve seen a bunch of times that he’s very good at abstract thinking and all that, but he’s also pretty…argumentative. And it could be so funny to see how he and haechan go back and forth. They’re both wordsmiths. And they both think very fast. So any type of dialectical discussion between them could go very far. But also, could explode and fizzle very quickly. [shrug emoji].


Most likely to lace deep conversation with teasing to lighten the mood


They both absolutely do this it’s fucking hilarious actually. I think in the poll haechan won by a landslide which is crazy because renjun looooooooves to drop in a sarcastic ass remark whenever something emotional/serious is happening T__T idk what to say they’re both masters of teasing. (all of 7dream are tbh). Something about renjun that i think fans don’t see is that he doesn’t really like corny shit. Like, it’s cringe to him. Which is so DUDE of him. (for example, when a fan asked if he preferred to be called cute or sexy and he very visibly and audibly GROANED). I love that side of him… ok that’s not related to this. Moving on!


Lends clothes


Okay hear me out. Renjun. So clothes obviously mean a lot to him. Fashion and style have great significance in renjun’s life, way more than in haechan's (as haechan has said when discussing his fashion sense and airport looks). I think renjun would really enjoy helping haechan dress. because clothes have more meaning to him and it's a way of messaging.


Conversely, haechan would happily lend clothes, too. I don’t think renjun would want them LMAO but haechan totally would offer and it’d make him happy to see renjun in his jacket for example. (tbh, I think everyone would enjoy seeing their lover in their clothes!?!?)


Borrows clothes


Hear me out AGAIN. Okay this is kind of crazy, i recognize that. But. haechan likes to obey. He obeys fans. He obeys his mom… i think part of him is happy to, like, accommodate how someone he cares for wants him to look. It’s like a sign of submission and trust. Idk. he’s so loyal to that damn 7dream ring. It puts ideas into my head…..so it’s not so much that he’d borrow clothes, but that he’d listen to renjun’s suggestions and be open to sorta fitting whatever it is renjun wants for him. (which is funny bc i doubt renjun would ask much of him. BUT… he would be like "babe..please no more slippers…") lmao


Big spoon


I dont care about this. Either one.


Little spoon


I don’t care about this either!


Loves cuddling the most


Haechan! Lmao

Renjun does too. But haechan, for sure. My scenario for this is renjun is really into spontaneous napping but he grows to only feel comfortable doing it when haechan is nearby. (looks for him backstage, gets clingy hehe)


Who relies on the other most


This question makes me feel the same way as the “who fell harder” question. It makes me sad! I like to think that in any relationship, what each person offers the other is equal.


Most likely to buy couple items


They are both notoriously crazy about this. Both are sickos.


Sticks to the grocery lists


Haechan, mr. systemic thinking.


Buys whatever piques their interest


Renjun, mr. free spirit.


Most likely to enjoy reading fanfics about themselves


Lol i don’t think either of them would love it… but i think it’d be easier for haechan to swallow it since he does the whole haechan/donghyuck boundary thing. I like to imagine renjun being very unimpressed with his characterizations (to make myself feel good about the lack of variety lol)


Who would propose


Haechan would propose only after various, super long conversations with renjun lmao i think he’s the type to need to feel really secure and confident before doing something like that. Renjun strikes me as slightly more risk tolerant. BUT … okay this is entirely just me creating a universe but like… i can imagine renjun having built a fantasy over the years of being proposed to in a very lovely and creative and extravagant way. So although he’s more forward and brave and spontaneous than haechan, i could see him holding back and forcing himself to wait to be proposed to (just so he could live out his dream of having the man of his dreams on his knees with a ring in his hand). This could be a good fic idea oooOOoooh…..


Who would organize the dress code for the wedding


Renjun 100%. It’s funny, i can imagine haechan having extremely strong opinions about the most random things, which would drive renjun crazy. Bc he’d lay back for the most part but then interject his harsh opinions unexpectedly which would throw renjun off and frustrate him hehehe


Okay that’s the end of the poll….as you can see these are all personal headcanons. so uh please don't be mean. GOODBYE



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2024-07-20 11:53 am

Writing as notions of divinity?

In my last post I said I would make a separate post about writing being spiritual for me. so that's what this is. to be more specific - i'm just thinking a bit about the overall themes and connective tissues across all my fics. someone said my fics are "calming and hopeful" which is pretty spot on to me. it's just funny because it's not my explicit intention, I think it's more of a consequence. I try not to imbue my stories with too much darkness. I don't like for my characters to suffer. I also try, when I write, to give characters good intentions. even if they're doing bad things, or hurting other people. this is for no other reason except for the fact that I think this is how people are in real life. I know it's crazy. but I think everyone thinks they're right, to some degree. and I suppose that comes out in my writing.

this is my blog right... so let me give a personal example. to start, my mom doesn't like this about me. she says i'm too forgiving, that i'm naive, and to use a spanish word "una pendeja." I actually agree with her. but I don't see myself changing any time soon. yesterday I went to mass and on my right wrist, I wore a bracelet that my former coworker gifted me. this lady, in my last month of working, reported me to HR for being "difficult to work with." According to her, I was bad a communicating, I hoarded information, and was disrespectful in meetings. there's more, but that's the gist of it. prior to this, we'd been working together under the same department for 4 years. while working together, we would confide a lot in each other. I know every detail of her last 6-7 relationships, I know about the day she ended her engagement, 1 week before her wedding. I know about the year her father died, and I watched her cry when she put her cat down. the day my dog died in 2022, she was the first person I told. I wept in front of her about my panic disorder and told her about my sister's miscarriage in 2023. she's 40something, I'm 29. the last 2-3 months I was there, she began to believe what my other coworker was telling her about the department, about me. That I was arrogant, unorganized, and probably, unqualified to lead. she believed this man (white, cis-male) over me. it was the most demoralizing and painful thing i've ever been through. no one, besides my family, has ever had the power to hurt me like that. tbh, i'm still recuperating.

do I think she's a bad person? no, honestly. I think she's dumb, yeah. I think she lacks a shit ton of skills, and her partial incompetence has continuously baffled me these last 4 years. But I can't bring myself to hate her. I was driving to mass and wondering if my inability to hate her is ridiculous. or a sign of weakness. my mom certainly thinks so! I feel very betrayed by this woman. I feel betrayed by several people at my last place of work. it feels like I was in a relationship, so incredibly vulnerable, and not only was I broken up with but also... reported. lmao. (idk if anyone is reading this actually but if you're wondering, the higher up HR department took my side and I was not fired. I quit!). 

I give the same grace to my characters, it's not really by choice. idk how to be that decisive with my hate and hurt. and I think part of me feels it isn't right to be. and I guess I don't like bringing that energy into my life, not even in the pretend worlds I paint! it affects my spirit. hence me using the word "spiritual" earlier!

last thing I'll say about "spirituality" and writing - creation of any kind is inherently a divine act. at least, in appearance. I think it's helpful to remember that, especially when evaluating art and all that. 
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2024-07-20 11:01 am
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thoughts about writing

I'm currently at the 11,507th word mark on this fic wip I have that's due next month.
Some time last week, I decided to dive deep-ish into the dongren tag on ao3 and read some of the fics that have slipped past my radar over the years. It's been pretty interesting.

This might seem absurd considering how consistently I've written since starting my last job, but something about being fully employed makes reading fanfiction difficult for me. It's hard to get into it. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the fics, especially those written by writer friends, but it's not the same sense of escapism and wonder I'd get when I was younger. So, since I quit my job last month, I've made a point to read more fics (and books!). (Mind you, it's not much, maybe less than 20, but I'm happy about that number regardless(!).) I love that fanfic writers are pumping out these stories, writing so creatively and imaginatively. We play with our dolls and are silly enough to translate that world of play into words.

While I was editing my wip just now, I found myself thinking about the influence that my job has had on my fic writing. Part of my former job involved putting my writing through pretty rigorous rounds of editing. One of my worst offenses when I started was having a weird attachment to passive voice. When I graduated college, I found passive voice very lyrical and close to my inner speech patterns. But my supervisors very gently steered me the other way, and I'm glad they did! Obviously, there's a place for passive narration in fiction, and I do still use it. but it helped me so much to see how...loosey goosey it sounds after a while. Another issue I had, and I think this was largely informed by all the academic texts from the early 20th century I consumed back in college, was my propensity for run-on sentences. My writing was so....irregular and dense and hard to trust and follow. Which, to give myself credit, was never something I actively avoided. But the editors called it out and molded my writing into something far more clear and concise.

I'm forever grateful. I got a lot better at thinking about readability while writing. And part of that is about finding the balance between providing adequate context and trusting readers to infer/interpret.

Anyways! I received a comment on an old fic of mine. It's a taekook fic from 2019 and the reader is a newish dongren reader (I think!). The comment was so lovely and thought-provoking, but before I get into that, I reread the old story and OHMYGOD. There are so many writing choices that make my eye twitch!!!! I have a lot of fondness for the older me that was writing fic without a care in the world, no plan, no beta no several rounds of editing, just stream-of-consciousness writing for the hell of it. But,,, OMG! There's a point where I randomly switched pov's in the middle of a paragraph! I still struggle a lot with clarity and readability but it's nice to see tangible evidence of me improving. YAY GROWTH.

Ok this ramble literally has no flow... MY BAD. Another point I wanted to make is about the experience of reading fic. I am too critical! And I guess this goes back to my job. I'm an editor as well, not only did I edit copy for the institution I worked for, but I also functioned as a structural and content editor. It's hard for me to shut that part of my brain off. And it's wild because I'm not being like critical or harsh while I read, I'm just noticing things and it's like an exercise on playing with language... very distracting stuff.

Anyways, this fic is due next month but I'd love to finish it soon. I start a new job and I don't want to be thinkig about the fic while working lol I'm going to try this time to put most of my mental energy and brain juices into work and other hobbies this fall.

I have 1 more fest fic due all the way in november and I've been thinking about all the dongrens that exist on ao3, all the dongrens I've written, and how I'd like to proceed.... do I want to try something different? Do I want to do some of the same things and just try to do them better? I have the beginnings of an idea.. or a feeling that I want to explore.... but I want the experience of writing it to be relatively painless lol so we'll see what I end up doing.

The comment I mentioned earlier - the reader said something that I've gotten a lot of times before which was that my writing is calming and hopeful. I started writing in 2017 and I've gotten a version of this comment over and over since then. and it's! so cool. HOWEVER, I've decided this post is too long so I'll talk about it in another post. That one will be about umm.... how I think writing is spiritual experience.

OK BYE
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2024-06-18 12:02 am

Promises of Another Kind - Director's Cut

 

Hello! In this post I’d like to ramble a bit about my fic, Promises of Another Kind. I still haven’t really had the chance to process finishing it or even to pat myself on the back for having the courage to start it in the first place 🥲


I’m going to write this assuming that you have already read it. (Wooo!)


Inspiration/Research


Believe it or not - the idea started with a twitter post I saw. You know, that one that said something like “what if betas didn’t know whether they’d go into heat or rut until it happened.” It was nice to see the least popular omegaverse rank get some attention. It’s something I think about every time I write a/b/o. but - besides that one time four years ago - I don’t usually give beta characters a central role in my stories. What would it look like for me to do so? Immediately, I thought of haechan.


I’m not sure how I went from wanting to write a beta love story, to one of infidelity and royal marriages. I think I’ve wanted to treat the theme of a harem, or of a third person entering a broken relationship, for at least a year. And I knew subconsciously that having a beta come in to “oil some gears” so to speak, was a good trope to explore.


I started writing without planning. I chose Johnny as the starting "antagonist" because of his face, and his tendency to elicit strong reactions in fans (positive or negative!). In real life, I see him as someone who is confident and caring, but also soft and indecisive. But beyond that, I didn’t give it much thought!


It was important for me to make Renjun a bit stiff. When I started writing I didn’t have a clear character arc in mind, but I knew that in order for us to get from point A to point B, the main character would need to start off with a few negative(ish) traits. I was gentle with his characterization at times, but the truth is, Renjun starts the story quite haughty. He shuts down Yangyang’s attempt at candid conversation and is guarded and quick to anger. He’s not very personable! 


Once I set that up, it was a matter of painting the picture, and by extension - setting the time and place. I went back and forth, which was funny. Should there be motorized carriages/cars? And therefore car parks/garages built within the royal grounds? Should the printing press exist? (Newsprint being a good prop to have for plot purposes.) Or should the story take place in a time a bit more unstable? Where word of mouth and rumor holds great weight? I decided to stick to horses, but in my head, the royal grounds in PoAK are more modern and lavish than, say, a fifteenth century european castle. I figured without the influence of christian austerity, architecture could flourish in a more uhhh garish way. LOL! Also I wanted the royals to be clean and have greater access to exotic goods (lavender oils, for example, and fancy foods). So yes, there’s some sense of “anachronism” there, or maybe a nicer, less self-critical way of putting it is, PERIOD-BLENDING. Although medieval, there are glaring examples of baroque opulence in the story. YAY.


Donghyuck’s introduction

It was fun for me to write a character introduction like this. For the first 8 or so chapters, I received a few comments about DH, about how, as attractive and interesting as he is, he isn’t very trustworthy. Actually I was lowkey gagged that readers didn’t trust him, that readers attached themselves so fiercely to renjun. Kinda cool! I did have a moment where I feared I made Donghyuck too morally ambiguous. But then - I just trusted my gut lol. part of the whole “beta” stereotype was seeing where the stereotype even came from. I really liked the idea of Donghyuck being a sort of social chameleon who, for the sake of survival, learned from a young age how to adapt and perform whichever identities pleased those in power. And later, in ch.10, we see him code-switching with his childhood friend. It’s cool because for the whole fic, I was writing from the pov of a very privileged, wealthy person and I tried hard to capture the "othering gaze" that tends to happen when someone of one class perceives someone of another class. 


A big portion of Renjun’s fixation with Donghyuck comes from otherness, or difference. Renjun doesn't identify with Donghyuck and therefore sees him as a threat. But also, he compares himself to him, and concludes, rather unfortunately, that they are both exact opposites. This realization hurts Renjun’s ego, one that is already withering due to Johnny’s rejection.


Donghyuck is kind of a lone wolf in this story. Like Renjun, he’s never fully trusted with the truth from Johnny (not until the letter reveal). But unlike Renjun, he has no claim to it in the first place. The princes don’t owe him honesty. I like to think he was eager to move up in rank and begin serving as an attendant to the prince. At the start, he comes off as insolent because he’s under the impression that this is what both prince’s want (at least, that unorthodox approach seems to be what Johnny likes). Donghyuck has no real understanding of deference and etiquette in that garden scene, or even later when Renjun runs into him after walking Muji. It takes training from Sohee and the others to learn appropriate behavior. (which is why I figured it could be nice to include that exchange between him and Sohee while ironing.)


But of course, once he does learn a few manners, Renjun has pretty much already grown to like him for his lack of social/political greed and noble upbringing.


Last thing - Donghyuck’s sister. It was important for me to have her in the story because she alone is Donghyuck’s family. His property, his companion, his blood - it’s all represented in this one character. I liked having that as a foil to Renjun, who has two royal families attached to him.


Prince/King Johnny


It’s worth mentioning that Johnny is pretty much suffering just as bad as dongren, if not worse (because on top of being in love with someone he can’t be with, he’s also GAY!). I can see why some readers (based on comments lmao) were frustrated with him. He’s the strangest character I’ve ever written. There were times where I wanted to take the easy way out and write him in a more conventional way (easier to anger, more violent, more cruel). But… I was inspired by situations in my personal life, with people who cause severe harm without meaning to, who have shortcomings that end up hurting the people around them… it’s more subtle, I guess! Johnny, for almost the full entirety of the fic, is very wounded and kinda like… developmentally arrested/stuck. The whole story of PoAK begins because of Johnny’s woundedness (or maybe I can call it his “functional handicap”). And so, in the final scenes, when Johnny finally puts his foot down, and gives a substantial, focused, and decisive order (to Doyoung) I knew the fic was over.


[[[BTW - it was important for me to have Johnny’s character breakthrough happen once Renjun truly proved to him that he was trustworthy (which happens when he refuses to reveal Jihyo’s name to Doyoung). ]]


The fic, to me, isn’t solely about dongren getting their happily ever after (which, they DO! sorta), but about Renjun and Johnny’s partnership (and - on a different note - about Renjun growing to clear a path for himself that embraces vulnerability, passion, and resilience).


From ch. 10:


“Doyoung, begin the investigation at dawn. Let us act swiftly. Money is no issue. If we decide to pay it, then we will. I am King. I do not answer to the lords of Coins. If they have questions about the money transfer, asking and poking around like ungrateful vultures will get them fired. Make that clear. Speak with Taeil…Make it believable.”


I would have loved to reveal Johnny’s inner monologue here. How he goes from accusing Donghyuck while throwing a tantrum to making several cohesive orders, far more strategic in nature. He’s basically saying, “find a cover for extracting the money and pay it! Who gives af if it seems shady to the lords of Coins? IM THE KING. I can exercise executive power literally at will.” And that’s that! 


Renjun’s ears are buzzing. His husband is finally acting as King. And he's taking Renjun’s side. For the first time since entering the office, the knot in his stomach begins to loosen.


Here is Renjun’s relief. Kind of funny that in the moment he feels true allegiance with Johnny, Renjun also feels unsafe in the castle. Which leads us to the final scene!


PoAK Ending


Renjun’s gut reaction to feeling the true weight of his regal status, the true precariousness of being the face of the kingdom, is to remove Donghyuck from royal grounds.

Excerpt from the final scene, with notes:

In the guest room, the fireplace crackles. It’s the only sound within those four walls.

Renjun kneels on the floor, trying to get Donghyuck to remove his face from his hands. [Renjun on his knees, on the floor, shows a visual inversion of their power dynamic. It's a reference to an earlier scene with DH on his knees offering to suck RJ off.]

“Look at me. Hyuck. Please.”

“I didn’t do it.” [I like this line bc it makes him sound like a little kid getting scolded. Tbh both of them, in their fear and desire for each other, are very child-like here! Which is something I tend to mention often in fics lol like, submitting to feelings of love/affection makes characters simple and unfiltered like children]

“I know you didn’t,” Renjun says, easily.

“So why are you sending me away?” [fun way to reveal Renjun’s plan!]

His voice is tiny, the smallest it’s ever sounded. Renjun’s mind is full of rubble and ash. He can barely think straight, but he’s convinced this is the right choice. “To protect you. I know you can understand why it isn’t safe for you here.”

Donghyuck sniffs. Renjun speaks again, rambling. “I’ll pay for Hyojin’s treatment. I’ll send you money. I just want you to be safe—”

His words get cut off by Donghyuck’s mouth on his. “I don’t want to leave.” [This is something that was important for me in the last two chapters. Here DH refutes Renjun’s proposal (or had it been a command? We don’t see it). It’s important for his arc (and Renjun’s!) that DH becomes more and more comfortable refuting Renjun’s authority. Which is explored in the sex scene from before where DH suggests they drop the “Your majesty” honorific. He does it for Renjun, to help him get out of that rigid mentality, but also for himself, to help himself feel less powerless.]


A few lines down, Renjun stumbles again. He gives a sort of detached suggestion, and then later adds the word “Please.” to show that it matters to him.


“You can come with us. Please.”


When Donghyuck agrees, when he accepts the invitation, their story is set. They’ll continue to risk and hope for the best :D the Crown will pay the hush money. the Crown will find someone to blame and incarcerate. Junhui will grow and begin walking, and dongren will start a life in Yros under the pretense of preparing the Young Lord for his post at the ports. DH agreeing to RJ's plan is them agreeing to continue to take the risk daily. which brings me to the final section of this long ass, self-indulgent ramble:


Themes in the story


1. Covenants/allegiance/contracts - someone very big-brained left a comment about dongren’s “verbal marriage” having a religious undertone. Um…. I CRIED READING THAT. Because, yes! My last author’s note explains it more.


I liked the idea of creating alliances/covenants verbally, without rituals or ceremonies and political motivations...promises that operate outside that realm...promises of another kind, perhaps... which is why these verbal affirmations are so important for these two, it's all they have.


Also - at risk of getting too theoretical - I do love thinking of verbal affirmations as these prayer-like mantras. Or even, as acts of devotion. I guess another thing to think about is the inherent legalese of a marriage contract and how the title of the fic is essentially showing how dongren vow to make daily promises to each other in order to affirm what is otherwise completely immaterial and legally nonexistent.


2. Resilience/being nimble - this is just me inserting some hard-learned life lessons lmao. People who follow me on twitter know that while updating this fic, my professional life kind of fell apart. Tbh I’m still processing all of that lmao but to get back to the story, I identify with renjun’s character a lot (surprise, surprise) and knew that watching him work through his mommy issues and war trauma could be really gratifying and cathartic. Renjun is someone that conquers the world by thinking of it. And when things (his alpha husband being in love with another alpha; his child dying; his untameable love affair with a sex worker) begin to occur that destabilize the foundations of his understanding of the world, those inflexible core beliefs will eventually snap. I don’t think I gave that feeling full justice, but I sure tried.


3. Sex - there’s a lot of sex in this fic! And I enjoyed using sex to explore different things between each character pairing/dynamic. During renjun’s first heats, johnny is emotionally detached. At this point of the story I admit I purposely chose certain words to lead readers astray (hehe); to make him out to seem selfishly cruel, in some ways. The truth is, johnny at this point of the story, planned to die with his affair as a secret. Never did he think he would let renjun in on the truth, fearing immediate exposure and ridicule. Donghyuck being there isn’t just for getting an heir, but for Johnny to remove himself from the equation as much as possible (to protect himself from Renjun’s shrewd observational skills, even in heat.) Sex with donghyuck later on, is radically different. It takes donghyuck time to learn to ask for things, and renjun takes time to allow himself to feel full attraction. The sex scenes are where we see what each of their fears and worries are. and their desires.


4. Family/upbringing - Renjun’s mom “wore the pants” in her marriage, basically ruling from the sidelines. Johnny’s mom is warmer, less involved with politics, and more into being a socialite. But who knows what type of woman she would have become had her kingdom been invaded and attacked (as Zen was). Renjun’s father is lame. He’s in a wheelchair. When we see him he’s always cheerful and almost..strangely oblivious. Xiaoting was a great way for me to further illustrate Renjun’s past and for us to see how Renjun’s anxieties about marriage also affect Xiaoting. Oh the plight of an omega…..


ALRIGHT ENOUGH! That’s all I got for now. If you made it here.. omg hey ;) *fist bumps you and shows you a backflip*

a song about a queen at war

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2024-03-31 08:17 pm
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Humor and dongren

Ever since amanda first suggested I make a dreamwidth account, I’ve thought about what my first post could look like. Bc the only ones ive seen (and they’re not many) have been long and thought-provoking, I kept building up the idea of the First Post in my head, so much so that the prospect of finally posting became a little intimidating.

BUT THEN--

While I was showering the other day, I began my favorite bathroom activity: Dongren Free Association Shower Thoughts. One interaction from a recent youtube segment, kept replaying in my mind. And so, I think unpacking this tiny moment can be a nice start to whatever my dreamwidth account will grow to be (or not.. maybe this will be my only post. who knows...)

The interaction is from the Dream Haus ep.1 video and it starts at around the 13min mark.

Anyone who’s heard me blab during a dream comeback knows that these roleplaying vids are my favorite. I love improv and social interactions that are communally performative…aka bits. And I think dream are just good enough, or maybe, just bad enough at it, to make it a perfect blend of enjoyable and hilarious but also… revealing. And as someone who needs to feel an interpersonal connection to the celebs I stan, this can be really exciting.

The 7dream guys in particular are pretty dang well-balanced on camera. (Sidenote: jisung is the real star of this episode, bravely adhering to the number 1 rule of improv - Never Say No. Had he said no, just once, I feel the whole bit woulda cracked wide open :o yay jisung). The skit involves places the dreamies in a marketing firm, and the first task is to create a logo design for their smoothie beverage. The guys have a good time spewing out a few jabs at each other - renjun at jisung, haechan at jeno, mark at all of them - as they settle down to create their logos.

I’m only going to talk about heachan’s.

The Zero Smoothie© is a small carton drink labeled ZERO despite being a high calorie beverage. The joke being that “zero” is just the name, not an indication of its nutritional value (or lack thereof). And to quote renjun, “it’s just called ZERO.” haechan-the-scammer adds, “there will be clarification in very small print.”

The rest of the logos are great, i'm gonna talk about em though. The important thing here is, when the time came to vote on the best one, to no one’s surprise (I hope…), renjun chose haechan’s.

Haechan didn’t even choose haechan. The only person that voted for his design was renjun.

It’s a small moment, and I don’t consider this “ship” evidence in any way. What I do consider it to be is further insight into renjun’s perception of haechan, specifically the traits he likes about him. There was a point during last year’s promotions where renjun mentioned more than once that the thing that he liked most about haechan was his wit. Other times, he called it haechan’s “way with words”, concluding that haechan lives life easily because of his ability to craft sentences so well. And of course, there’s the note on haechan’s ability to make them all laugh “until getting abs” that renjun has mentioned a bunch of times over the years.

I think it’s because I myself center humor within my relationships with people that I find this to be one of the more special things about haechan and renjun’s dynamic. Renjun clearly values someone’s ability to express themselves well. Renjun also loves humor and is, arguably more than any other member, the most committed to making their videos humorous for fans/viewers. And I like to think this sentiment extends to his personal life, seeking humor as a touchpoint between himself and others.

There was this tumblr quote that made the rounds back in, like, 2011 I think it was a Tina Fey comment (lmao?) that said, “you can tell a lot about a person by what they laugh at.” I was in high school at the time, with dreams of being a sketch comedy writer, and so the quote really resonated.

I love how freely renjun laughs at his members’ shenanigans. His belly laugh, his dad laugh, his sweet close-lipped giggles– it’s earnest and so damn loveable.

I’ve noticed that although haechan smirks, giggles, chuckles, and SNICKERS at his members and their tomfoolery, he rarely offers up a big genuine laugh. I think sometimes he laughs to encourage the guys or to help with pacing/flow, but those big belly laughs are rare. I wonder what it feels like to get/earn that response from him. I think Renjun does too, and maybe even actively craves it. (I know he’s gotten belly laughs out of heachen [on cam], but I can’t recall the specific instances off the top of my head. I’m thinking 2020-2021).

Alright, I should wrap this up! And here I thought I would make this short…

To conclude, I love love love thinking about dongren through the lens of humor and their humor compatibility. I also think haechan’s savviness and wit feels very relatable to me. At risk of sounding arrogant, I am a fellow Funny Person Who Has Been Called Funny By Various People From All Walks of Life. *smiles painfully* I can’t help but feel kinship with him.

In 2016, in the middle of winter in Chicago, I took a train with my friend. It was a long train ride. I remember we broached some serious topics. She’s 6 and half years older than me, and had known me for about 7 years then. She said, “you know, I know you. I know you’re good with words, with saying the right things at the right time. But what’s under all that?” she was teasing me, mostly. I remember feeling an odd sensation in my chest, the same feeling you get when you miss a step while climbing down a staircase. Surprise and, momentarily, vulnerable.

Even now, thinking about this, I feel a bit hollow… With that one phrase, my friend painted a picture of me with colors I didn’t fully believe other people could see. I wonder if Renjun has ever told heachan something similar. “You’re so funny Haechan. But what are you hiding?”